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spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:44 pm | |
| I know, you had no clue what the scientific fancy words were, but you saw Dwarf porn and hit the button! Sorry, its spider related Seriously, chased around my mature male in the breeding tub for about five minutes until the little sprinter was finally caught in a large sized vial. You know its a dwarf species when a mature male is caught in a large vial. I introduced him into the female's container, and he immediately started a slow, methodical search, tapping his pedipalps lightly the entire time. He was using the pedipalps in place of drumming, which I've seen from this species before. He found the female's burrow, and tried to dance her out. She responded a bit pissy, but never attacked him, rather chased him off. Like any true male, he kept persuing the female over and over again. With a little bit of interference from the family, it wasn't quite working out too well, so I left the male with the female to cohabitate. This species is semi cohabitable, so its not much to worry about. From what I've seen, I'm guessing there was mating involved, but its all guess work. He has been very mellow and has been camping under some of the female's webbing. This mellow attitude makes me think he did the job, but its all guess work really Now for the photos of the silly boy who thinks she likes him | |
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Age : 52 Registration date : 2008-08-07
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:21 pm | |
| well hopefully they got the job done and she didnt just blow him off lol | |
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| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:31 am | |
| Is she bigger than him?Is there a risk she will kill him after mating? I find this stuff very very interesting. |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:36 pm | |
| Well, this is a semi communal species, that pretty much means they ignore each other. This is a species that you can drop a few in the same tank, and they won't mess with each other. That doesn't mean they are totally safe, and I need to try to get that little guy out of there pretty soon. There is a definate risk, which is why I wanted to remove him, but I'm not really worried too much. The female is the same size as the male, with the exception of the huge butt. I fed her pretty well in advance to make sure she wasn't thinking about getting dinner when I introduced him. | |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:14 pm | |
| Sometimes when a male is introduced, the female will force a molt. This sets her up for the absolute best time for mating. This is exactly what has happened. Yesterday I noticed she had molted and was a fresh beautiful brown. She is now gorgeous. She is still cohabitating with the male, and in another week or so, I'll remove him and introduce a second male. Hopefully there will be more mating and I'll get some results! I'll see about getting pics later | |
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Age : 52 Registration date : 2008-08-07
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:27 am | |
| you allways have some interesting pics of them its nice to see things there doing and the webs they make and i did not know that some could be housed together with out fights i was allways told that they couldnt be together like that good info to know learn something new everyday | |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:48 pm | |
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| | | Admin Admin
Age : 52 Registration date : 2008-08-07
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:08 pm | |
| i allways thought it was neat how they molt leaving behind a shell | |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:10 pm | |
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| | | Serpentwoman Moderator
Age : 53 Registration date : 2008-08-07
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:08 pm | |
| No way!!! Is that a big, bright and beautiful egg sack I see down there?? | |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:31 pm | |
| Yep, first, and last sac of the year. Breeding sucked this year, mostly because I can't find boyfriends for the females I want to breed. This one however has worked out, at least it looks like it will. There are still things that can happen from here, but I'm hopeful! I think I'm going to set up some slings in a communal set up, we'll see how four or five do in the same tank. | |
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| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:41 am | |
| How many babies come from an egg sac like that? Do you have to feed the babies after they hatch? I think spidies do cool stuff. Very interesting to know about them. Do you make much money off the babies? |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:38 pm | |
| Depends on the species. A typical Rose Hair can dropp 250 babies, a Cobalt Blue can drop 60 to 80, and the Salmon Pink....get ready, can drop over 2000! This one doesn't drop a lot, I might get 20 to 40 or so, that's more guess than anything, but I don't see a lot come out of this species when they drop a sac. I'll offer babies for a cheap amount, but as far as making money, there are some you can sell for over $100 a baby, which I think is greed, but oh well. Go figure After they hatch, I'll be offering tiny pre killed crickets, and when they get some size they'll be able to take the prey down all by themselves | |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:09 pm | |
| Sorry for being away, I've had issues going on. Families do that to a guy sometimes. Well, I was beginning to wonder about whether or not this would have a happy ending. I just did a routine check, and I have baby Yamia sp. koh samui all over the enclosure mom is in. Looks like this is a success! I'm going to drop some tiny crickets in later and I'll figure out exactly how I'm going to seperate them. I'm one happy spider keeper right now! | |
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| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:11 pm | |
| So I guess the babies are quite small?.? They can't get out of their enclosure? Then do you sell them? Cool! |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:43 pm | |
| Actually, they are in a plastic jar with no ventilation so they won't get out. They don't need much oxygen, actually they get quite a bit considering how much they actually need. They are pretty darned small, but a tad bigger than I expected them, especially considering mom will max out at about two inches or so. I'll be getting pics later, they are all so darned cute | |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
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| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:23 am | |
| Cool pics. They sure are small.Now how long till you can sell them? Is there a big market for th spiderlings? |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:02 pm | |
| I can sell them right now, but shipping in cold weather is a risk, and these are super rare in the USA. There is only a very small handful of people with this species here right now, so risk is not so good. Being that they are rare here, there probably is a market, rare is cool with some people, but dwarf species sometimes aren't in really high demand. Their looks aren't as impressive as they could be, but I'll tell you, feeding time is very impressive when they get to be about an inch in legspan. They hit a cricket, even a cricket larger than they are like New Orleans Saint hits a Seattle Seahawk! I'm not really sure on the price, but I really don't like seeing super high price tags, I like getting them out to everyone, rich or poor. When I do charge high, I usually toss in four or five freebies so the person gets their money's worth | |
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| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:27 am | |
| I really like trantulas.I have had a few I got whrn they were bigger(Mexican Red leg) But nothing exotic or rare. .I want to get a Brazilian Black some day, when my wife aint lookin lol. |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:13 pm | |
| Gramastola pulchra, nice choice. Expensive, but very nice choice. I understand they eat baby rattle snakes in the wild, still semi question that one, but very possible. Honestly, in my humble opinion it doesn't have to be rare to enjoy. It helps when you show them off on a forum, but really as long as you have a few different species, you can enjoy them all the same. Its all about attitude, personallity and looks in my book | |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:29 pm | |
| Ok, I'm thinking on making this one really big thread, showing mating all the way up to a bunch of itty bitty babies. That and I'm too frickin' lazy to start a new thread. So, here goes. Here is a picture of the many babies that have eluded me, yet come out during feeding time Ok, there's three, I like over kill sometimes. There could be an easy 50 in there, though that number might be a little bit high. Its very hard to count when they stay underground, and hard to count when they come scrambling out in random directions. Here is a different container which I dropped about 8 or so in Amazing how they space their homes apart like that | |
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| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:15 pm | |
| Now these are to small to tell the sex?! It sure is interesting seeing them so small.Ever lose any like escapees? |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:54 pm | |
| Well, if you're better than me with a microscope and you have a molt, then yeah you can sex them, but at this size, its like mission impossible. Escapees, well, yes, I had one. Oddly enough it was the pink toe on the other thread I just put up, and it was found on the back of the chair that my arachnophobic friend was sitting in It was classic! | |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:14 pm | |
| This has been a nice thread, and I figured I would add another post to it to update everyone on how the babies were doing I separated some of the babies, but many I kept in the candy jar that you see above. This species is semi sorta communal, so its not that bad of a deal to keep them together. I expected them to be bigger by now, which would mean territory issues, so I decided it was time to rehouse the group. I added some substrate into a 10 gallon tank and dumped the dirt and babies into it. At first all I saw was one baby at about one inch from front to back leg. This really disturbed me, I should have been able to find more than that, so I started to dig searching for them. I found a few more, but smaller than I expected. It looked as if they had not eaten very well, which was odd because I fed them very well to keep them from canabalizing. After a few hours of digging, this big one, almost full grown and extremely fat flew out in a panic. I housed it in its own tank, but I learned that canabalization is not the only thing to worry about in a communal tank. This big one had grown larger faster than the others, and when it was time to feed, it had been eating more of the food than the others, resulting in the others not being fed well enough. Today there are plenty of burrows set up so I know there are quite a few still left in there, but I'll be watching out for the bullies from now on Yamia sp. koh samui | |
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| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:20 pm | |
| Thats interesting. My friend hatches Bearded Dragons and we both noticed that of the 20 he had a couple were not growing much. Seems the bigger ones were getting to the food faster so we seperated them in two tanks bigger in one and smaller in the other. That seems to have fixed that part of the problem.But we also learned that an extreamly small dragoon will quit eating so the larger ones can eat. Something triggers their natural process and they quit eating 'for the survival of the group' The smallest two gave up on eating so the others could survive. So we only lost two from starvation. We have an older batch that we keep 4 babies from, well they grew and we attempted to put a few of the smaller -newer babies in the tank with the older ones- Mistake the older ones tried to eat the larger ones even though they wern't that older but were bigger. THEM DANG CANNIBLE ZARDS! |
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| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:22 pm | |
| Sorry the older ones tried to eat the younger ones lol. Dang glasses of mine lol. |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:41 pm | |
| Now that is very interesting. Tarantulas for the most part are more about their own survival rather than the group surviving. There is one that is different, I think its an Ephebopus species in Central America, known as the Chicken Spider. I hear they hunt together and take things down and stuff. No clue how true that is, people make up stories to impress everyone, we all know how that works, but if its true, I want a dozen or so! | |
| | | Jon
Registration date : 2010-11-10
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:34 am | |
| actually, the larger bearded dragons will bully the smaller bearded dragons, this will in turn stress out the smaller bearded dragons, who will then stop eating. it has nothing to do with survival of the species. two male beardies will fight for dominance, and if possible starve the loser to death. i have seen to many beardies brought to the shop because someone bought these really cute lizards from craig list, never did the research, cant find the person who sold them, and now dosent know what to do, and ofcourse, by the time they decide to bring them in, its very doubtful the lizard will recover from the mal nutrition. please research any pet, even on google or wikipedia, before deciding to buy it. allthough some baby beardies seem to be slower starters. were currently whole saling this year due to the large number of adults in the shop. were approaching the 1500 mark, and had a two headed dragon that ate fine and survived for about two weeks, and another two header that was dead inside the egg. | |
| | | Jon
Registration date : 2010-11-10
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:35 am | |
| oh, and i love the spider stuff. would camel spiders happen to count as tarntulas?
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| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:12 pm | |
| The Camel Spiders are actually an arachnid called Solifugae. Very different from actual spiders and tarantulas. They are an arachnid, much like a tarantula, or a scorpion, but that's as close as the relationship goes. Opposed to the legends and stories, they have no venom, just really nasty chelicerae, aka pinchers. That's a good question though, they look very similar at first glance and are distantly related. Studying various arachnids and their similarities and differences is actually kinda interesting | |
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| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:13 am | |
| What ever the case may be the bottom line is the smaller one for what ever reason didnt make it. The explaination came from several sources Including the dude that raises them. But I now have the dragon curse. I love them and thats strange cause I have a fear of lizards.But I have two juvies and six babies. All seem happy. I am building an area for them to live outside. I own dogs so Have to make the enclusure Dog and critter proof.My friends enclousure is working out great but his is smaller with areas set aside inside so they dont fight or mess with each other, hard to xplain. M y enclousure is large enough to walk in since I cant bend over since my neck surgery.I guess in the winter I will have to bring them inside for the warmth even though it doesnt get too cold in So Fla. I am new to these cuties and would appreciate any advice any one could give. My dang Photobucket is still giving me trouble but some day I will send pics. Right now I think both of my juvies are female. seem to get along in their tank for now and by the time spring rools around hopefully they will go out side for the greater part of the year.Am hopeing to get a male for them by them, maybe one of my babies? |
| | | spider ninja Moderator
Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:23 pm | |
| This may seem odd, but I started out the same, very arachnophobic, and I'm still semi squeemish with handling. | |
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| Subject: Re: Yamia sp. koh samui mating Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:52 pm | |
| We have anoles abd rail lizards and tooooo many iguanas around and they still scare me but these dragons intrigue me and dont scare me. I think it was something I did Bad when I was young and my father really made me feel bad so I guess God made me fear lizards. Now dont everyone get their panties in a bunch, its just a phobia I have ,but dragons dont have that effect on me go figure. |
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